Gameplay Overview: I'm going to make this review as spoiler free as possible since I don't want to ruin anyone's Betrayal Legacy experience. The example is playable. Youre in the house from the original game. It was tons of fun for me and my friends. You have been warned. We define a traitor in a co-op game as someone who's purposefully lying in wait, trying to wreck the cooperation. And Betrayal Legacywas just more of the same. Join our community! As it turns out, the cooperation ofBetrayal Legacyramps up in complexity and meaningfulness over the first four or so sessions of play, but this was not a great first look for a game that was supposed to be a co-op. But we cant keep making our own fun. One of my favorite Legacy games is Betrayal Legacy. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Efficient. We do, he does, and the good guys win for the first time ever. This immediately led us to an outcome-based Legacy that was more meaningful than the cards that weve been adding to the deck based on previous results:the Guest Room where our killing occurred got replaced with a Bloody Room. We all knew it would be bad, but we all had different reactions to it. That small piece of paranoia was just perfectly placed. One of the joys of a Legacy game is seeing how it changes over time. Consult the Helm In the haunt books there is a Haunt 0, which is an example haunt to teach players how they work. Once youve completed the game youll have removed a number of cards from the decks as well as added many new ones. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. We've just played chapter 3 (I know, I'm risking so many spoilers being here), so have only brought it out of its resting place. . We may not remember the loss of the Guest Room, but we will remember the killing of the Baby every time this Bloody Room shows up. Back to the house. That said, once you complete the campaign, your copy of Betrayal Legacy can be played infinitely in "Free Play" mode. In the original game, players always start out working together to explore a house up until the haunt is revealed. I know we're being dumb. This was a great bit of Legacy because it felt like it permanently changed the house in a way that nothing else did before. This can be for attack, defense, an Event card or a Haunt roll. Our only big surprise is finding out more about the helm, as we learn it can be used to select a player, which means that players that use its power more are more likely to be selected. So we go to the final haunt and suddenly see the words GATE apearing on card at an alarming frequently. Betrayal Legacy Ending Questions (Spoilers included) One more warning, this post will contain massive spoilers for anyone who hasn't completed the campaign. But the Prologue didnt have any late-game cooperation either, since everyone is just trying to kill each other. Certainly theres some good tension here, which is what you need for a horror game to work, but its not enough to offset the pure unfunness of being punished from every exploration. We just chanted "helmmmm" this time, but discussed Baby Shark and Highway to Helm. Second, players got to mark ghosts on tiles where they died. That we talked about how none of us might be a witch, but also how thats exactly what the witch would say. Its tons of fun, with a great story, and really interesting mechanics. Co-op:This third game introduces a new mechanic: non-player personas who show up in the house at specific rooms. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. These seemingly minor details can have major implications by the end of the campaign. * Betrayal at House on the Hill (2004) and its derivatives uses the word traitor for their evil players, but its not a traitor as we define it in Meeples Together. There's an overarching narrative throughout the entire campaign, and many of the pieces added to the story are discovered based on how games end. We stream live on twitch at twitch.tv/QuestsAndChaos every Monday, Tuesday, and Saturday evenings in PST (Pacific Time Zone) Even inCharterstone, which has some problems with simple play enforcing player tactics, players can at least see the buildings they constructed. Still, it also provides more opportunity to wear down the foes resources. The #1 Reddit source for news, information, and discussion about modern board games and board game culture. The traitor wins again. Privacy Policy. I was actively trying to get that third check to read story and see the horror unleashed. The Bloodied Room was a rarity that we really remembered every time it returned, but most of the ghosts and scares just faded away into a deck of ghosts and scares, thus denying us their Legacy. In most Legacy games, like PandemicandSeaFall, players are driving the explorations and many of the other changes to the game. Also that they let the first person to die know that there wasnt a witch just in case people were confused was so nice. The problem is that theyre very punishing, often causing damage, often pushing the players ever onward, hoping to avoid the worst. To preserve anyone's experience, this review will be spoiler-free. Join Quests and Chaos as they Learn how to play through the board game Betrayal Legacy by Rob Daviau, and released by Avalon Hill of Wizards of the Coast. So my group and I just played chapter 12 and since we crossed out chapter 13 at some point months ago (Due to unfinished painting event) I guess we are done? One mission immediately starts with a haunt, for example. boardgame geek. Thats a pretty cool Legacy element, because it ensures those past choices have future results, which is what you really want in Legacy. As you play through the game youll never find a way to trigger Haunt 0. This time around, we discover theres a secret cult working out of the house, and we need to discover and kill their leader. Essentially, a completed copy of Betrayal Legacy is a completely unique version of Betrayal at House on the Hill, shaped by the decisions you made during the campaign. Betrayal Legacy is also smart for what it does and does not take from the original Betrayal. The traitor in the Betrayals is a player whos suddenly selected to become an openly evil player halfway through the game. Will Betrayal Legacy match our love of the classic horror? I enjoyed the game, but havent gotten to a place where Im ready to buy a second copy and go back into that house. Then they started talking. His family crest is clearly marked on the Deed to the House if we forget. In fact when were down to our last piece of furniture, its increasingly obvious were going to win, which is never a great thing a round out in a co-op game. There just wasnt enough Legacy at the start: it took until our fourth game for us to feel like a Legacy item was effective and to get elements like the helm and the changing house. This is one in a series of posts regarding the board game Betrayal Legacy. Not a great second look for a co-op game. The person who used the helm the most is a traitor. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. The more mechanical Legacy elements didnt impact our play much. We werecertainthat none of us were a witch, and yet we also werent. Dom - Eva 42 (yellow) - wife of Marius (Medical Practicioner) Darren - Pete 71 (green) - Uncle of Flossie (Experimentalist) Joe - Meghann 15 (blue) - cousin of Malachi (Savage) Brendan - Karen 31 (red) - sister of Janet (Investigator) Paul - Uriah 54 (purple)* - son of Boris (Gambler) Designer: Rob DaviauArtists: Scott Okumura, Ben OliverPublisher: Avalon HillPlayers: 3-5Time: 45-90 minutes per gameTimes Played: The entire campaign plus several post-campaign haunts Betrayal Legacy is the greatest game ever published. 3y Castles Of Burgundy I like the idea of revisiting the baby shark chant. You can access all my other Betrayal posts HERE. The other worlds open. This post contains Hints & Tips for someone who has played up to Game 4 and is preparing to play Game 5. This ensures players will have the tiles needed to finish each mission, and helps tell each mission's story and add to the worldbuilding. We would quickly go from friends to enemies once a traitor was revealed. And then we get to the haunt and theres no traitor. Journey back to the beginning of the horror as you create a unique story told through several generations of families obsessed with the house. From the end of the prologue one of the players owned the house. The problem is that theres not much cooperation other than the groups accumulation of resources toward success. Each mission is set around 20 years after the previous one, meaning you could be playing the child, niece or cousin of your character from a previous game. Betrayal Legacy | Ep.4 | Chapter 3 | Board Game Playthrough | SPOILERS! Co-op: We do something we havent before: we actually cooperate a bit before the Haunt, primarily using a special skill that allows us to somewhat select the house tiles coming up. Fluffypanda made an excellent altar for Betrayal Legacy's "Helm" piece, but sadly it was too big to fit within the build surface of my Ender 3. There are 13 games remaining. Each player adds one to a different spoke on the Helm at the start of Game 3, to get the ball rolling. It's even possible to keep your character from a previous game, assuming they made it out of the mission alive. The history you tell is one you create. Jo. We get to look at them one at a time. As Ive seen my own groups games of Pandemic Legacy: Season Two and SeaFall expand, Ive regretted not chronicling that expansion over time. So ourBetrayal Legacyplay ends here, alas. To a certain extent,Betrayal Legacyis starting to drag for us. There are a cook and a farmhand, who we name Octavia and Ed. . In other words, its totally on us. If you want to play through the story again, you'll need to buy an entirely new copy. Nobody owned the house anymore and the story reflected it. Obviously it was cursed and anyone who used it was doomed. we looked through the purgatory deck, through the tomb. Has the added benefit of permitting the Helm to be moved without sullying it with our unworthy human fingers. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window), Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window), Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window), Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window). If it reveals a branch with no stickers on it, simply choose again. You can never go wrong with a ghostbusters reference. This was easy to figure out we just didnt realize when it would happen. Extra people to interact with, which can give you a bonus in the game. You can access all my other Betrayal posts HERE. Take a second to support Shannon Appelcline on Patreon! Asmallbit of additional Legacy was introduced in this second game because the game (theoretically) could be won by either the traitor or the cooperators. but we can't find what? But, as noted before, its minor. Oh, its slightly different combat, as you SMASH mirror creatures to make it easier to close the portal to the mirror dimension, but its just variants of the same themes. If youd ask me to list everything I expected to do while playing Betrayal Legacy I dont think I would have guessed opening portals to other worlds. Figure 3-2: Lets be frank, this Legacy helm isnt going to go anywhere good. At the end of one game, the Helm arrives. When does the mundane elevator become the mystic elevator. Oops! Legacy games are designed to be played multiple times as each game can alter the experience for the next one. Co-op:Betrayal is always a bit of a weird cooperative game in its pre-Haunt phase because youre individually exploring and dont really want to help anyone else when anyone could be the traitor*. At the start of the Haunt in Game 4, the chosen player will have healed all their traits, and anyone else on that branch of the Helm will have healed 1 of their traits. So, the Otherworlds could have been the best of the best. (Michael.) I was hooked at that moment. Co-op:The co-op rules have also been getting more complex, and this time we non-traitors have a three-part process: (step i) find and memorize runes; (step ii) make a crib for an evil baby; and (step iii) kill the evil baby. The ghosts increasingly haunting the house possess the furniture this session, and we have to burn it in a fire before it kills us. There were two more interactive Legacy mechanics. All the resources here are offered free, but if you found a post useful, and you are in a position to help, I will gratefully accept any support. Many legacy games are designed for one playthrough of the campaign, and that holds true for Betrayal Legacy. Parts of the house are expanded and destroyed, or otherwise permanently altered based on the outcomes of certain missions. We did encounter a few rules snags while playing, but if you just go with the story and as a group decide on what sounds the most fun and fair way to figure out the problem, you'll be fine. The "traitor" in the Betrayals is a player who's suddenly selected to become an openly evil player halfway through the game. This is one in a series of posts regarding the board game Betrayal Legacy. So, go us. Theyre also integral to the third Haunt, which (thankfully) adds a second level of complexity to the cooperative play. You could have one person say baby shark and then everyone else could answer with do do doodoo all in monotone like you did before. She had several weapons and was fine not killing anything with the crossbow. Elegant. I will hide the exact purpose of it under a Spoiler tag, for those that want to start the game unknowing. This level of complexity is nice because it increases the possibilities for strategic play, allowing for some asymmetric cooperation. We killed an innocent cook! Post was not sent - check your email addresses! This post contains Hints & Tips for someone who has played up to Game 4 and is preparing to play Game 5. It will contain **Spoilers up to and including Game 4**. Next game were going to see our stickers on the helm, were going to remember our usage of this item, and maybe feel like we overdid it. Of course, if you didn't find Betrayal at House on the Hill to be fun, you might not love Betrayal Legacy. Co-op: The cooperative play of this Chapter is back to the multi-stage strategy that weve been missing. Chapter Four: 1797 The Haunted Furniture The ghosts increasingly haunting the house possess the furniture this session, and we have to burn it in a fire before it kills us. Were terrified of the traitor, so we immediately move on to stepii, where we engage in tactical cooperation (like we theoretically could have in Chapter One if wed been better equipped) to kill her. InBetrayal Legacy it felt like this slow ramp-up negatively affected two crucial system: the Legacy elements and the cooperative play. My friend John had the Crossbow as a family heirloom. You could even go around so that everyone has a turn being the high priest and starting the chant with baby shark. We define a traitor in a co-op game as someone whos purposefully lying in wait, trying to wreck the cooperation. Betrayal Legacy is a gaming experience I will never forget. Overall, we have a good time early in this game, again because of the increased length of the early game, but the fight-focused Haunt feels a bit rudimentary. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Cookie Notice However, I will note that the group I played this with included one person who doesnt like horror games and one person who doesnt like competitive games and we all had a blast. However, it looks to me like they are all just flavor text and nothing changes for any of them. Join half a million readers enjoying Newsweek's free newsletters, Betrayal Legacy is the best board gaming experience I've had, Everyone Practices Cancel Culture | Opinion, Deplatforming Free Speech is Dangerous | Opinion, 'Shadows in the Forest' Board Game Review. Rules additions are a major element of Legacy games, and they can add a lot so well see what the next game brings. But wed thought that the Legacy elements of the game would help it to rise above those elements, with a long-term campaign offering the opportunity to both offset randomness and to create the longer stories that we sometimes felt denied in the originalBetrayal. One of the easiest ways to do this is to place a set of Runes face down on the table, and have a player choose one to turn face up. Maybe someday I will, but for now Ill let that particular ghost slumber. How many stickers should each player have on the helm when you're finished with setup and actually start playing chapter 3? Learn how your comment data is processed. Efficient. So, its more of a Legacy element than most of the ones weve seen before. This time around theres some bloody doll thats trying to do some blood ritual to become all powerful, or something like that. 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